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Herbs and Their Role in Fertility

April 22, 2008 - Tuesday
8:00 PM to 9:00 PM (EST)
Guest Speakers: Stacey Roberts, of Natural Fertility

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[Tue Apr 22 16:54:47 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	hi everybody, welcome! I'm Corey Whelan, your chat moderator, I'm really glad you're here. I see that Stacey Roberts, of Natural Fertility has already joined us! Stacey is logging on all the way from Australia! Welcome. Tonight we will be discussing herbs and their role in fertility
[Tue Apr 22 16:55:26 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	We will be officially beginning in five minutes but feel free to post an earliy question if you would like to
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[Tue Apr 22 16:56:29 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	Stacey, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? we would love to hear more about you!
[Tue Apr 22 16:56:36 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Hi Corey, Thanks for having me today.
[Tue Apr 22 16:56:47 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	our pleasure
[Tue Apr 22 16:57:43 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	I am originally from the States, i.e. Milwaukee Wisconsin and we moved to Australia 8 years ago. We are currently located on the Gold Coast of Australia where we have our clinic that specialises in fertility issues.
[Tue Apr 22 16:58:49 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	My background is that I was a Physical therapist in the States and had a career change after moving to Australia and now I am a Master Herbalist and also run some Mind Body programs
[Tue Apr 22 16:59:48 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	great. If you were beginning to experience infertility issues, what herbs or treatments would you recommend?
[Tue Apr 22 17:01:11 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Thanks for the question. When someone comes to us with a fertility issue we do a full assessment (this can be done in person or online) and from that information we would choose the appropriate herbs for the individual. There would be different herbs that I would recommend for different scenarios
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[Tue Apr 22 17:02:26 PDT 2008]	hoping	hello!
[Tue Apr 22 17:02:50 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	Hi Hoping! Please feel free to jump in at any time
[Tue Apr 22 17:03:37 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	Stacey, a woman who couldn't be here asked me to pass onto you a request for information on herbs for a pcos 45 year old with one miscarriage, two years ago and no ivf success since,
[Tue Apr 22 17:04:50 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Okay, now we are getting specific Firstly when we look at this type of scenario the first thing that jumps out is pcos, so we would first look at diet and lifestyle factors that may contribute to the development of insulin resistance often associated with PCOS
[Tue Apr 22 17:05:26 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	then I would look at developing a formula to support glucose metabolism and insulin production, some of these would be
[Tue Apr 22 17:05:40 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Gymnena, cinnamon, and one could use chromion as well
[Tue Apr 22 17:05:51 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	I know that this woman is overweight, she is a chat regular who can't be here tonight. Isn't her age a real issue?
[Tue Apr 22 17:06:19 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Please remember though that this isn't a recipe because some medications can conflict with some herbs so we would want to check any meds that the person is taking as well
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[Tue Apr 22 17:06:34 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	the next thing that jumps out is the miscarriage
[Tue Apr 22 17:06:57 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	Hi Missanry, we are chatting with Stacey Roberts of www.naturalfertility.com. Hi bright, welcome to you both
[Tue Apr 22 17:07:09 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	there can be several reasons for a miscarriage, do you know when the miscarriage was Corey, how many weeks?
[Tue Apr 22 17:07:12 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	She is very sad about that still
[Tue Apr 22 17:07:12 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	thanks for the welcome
[Tue Apr 22 17:07:30 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	I dont' but I think it was first trimester, not sure how many weeks
[Tue Apr 22 17:08:06 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	miscarriages can be gut wrenching so I am sure it was difficult, if it was an earlier miscarriage then we would consider, especially with PCO if progesterone production was sufficient
[Tue Apr 22 17:08:40 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	If there appeared to be an issue with progesterone then we would likely utilise agnus castus or chaste tree as a herb to help
[Tue Apr 22 17:08:43 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	I'm going to give her your email address, this is all very interesting
[Tue Apr 22 17:09:09 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Isn't vitex agnus castus?
[Tue Apr 22 17:09:26 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	In addition if thyroid function is a bit sluggish then this can impact progesterone production so we would look at herbs to support the thyroid like, withania, bacopa and bladderwrack
[Tue Apr 22 17:09:45 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Vitex agnus castus is the same as Agnus castus or chaste tree
[Tue Apr 22 17:09:53 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	I am taking a liguid form of Vitex right now and on the bottle it say not to use it if you are pregnant? However, this confused me as I have read it is safe to take after ovulation
[Tue Apr 22 17:10:14 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	If the miscarriage was really early then it would also be important to consider the health of the sperm as well
[Tue Apr 22 17:10:30 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	THere is a lot of confusing information about Agnus castus
[Tue Apr 22 17:11:03 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Well I guess I am just wondering if it is safe to take after ovulation?
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[Tue Apr 22 17:11:49 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Again, it depends on the person regarding whether I would use it in the first trimester of pregnancy. There has been only one study that associated agnus castus with miscarriage that I know of and it wasn't a very good study in that it didn't give dosage or patient history
[Tue Apr 22 17:12:17 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	so its still a bit unknown, however with some patients, i will suggest
[Tue Apr 22 17:12:24 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Interesting, well I just want to take it until I find out I am pregnant, then I will most likely stop it
[Tue Apr 22 17:12:34 PDT 2008]	Missanry	What herbs would you recommend as most important for male fertility issues? My husbands count is extremely poor. (.2 mil per ml, 50% mot, 2% morph. Bloodwork, physical, ultrasound all normal.)
[Tue Apr 22 17:12:44 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	I have endometriosis, had a lap in September of 2007
[Tue Apr 22 17:12:45 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	that they use agnus castus up until they become pregnant and then stop it, but again depending on the situation I might have them continue
[Tue Apr 22 17:13:06 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Regarding male fertility issues,
[Tue Apr 22 17:13:14 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	its the same as female fertility issues,
[Tue Apr 22 17:13:31 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	we want to find out WHY the sperm quality is poor
[Tue Apr 22 17:13:41 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	or if the count is low, we want to figure out why
[Tue Apr 22 17:14:07 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	One common herb used to address count is tribulus
[Tue Apr 22 17:14:10 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	I always ask if you use well water
[Tue Apr 22 17:14:24 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	when sperm quality is an issue
[Tue Apr 22 17:14:24 PDT 2008]	Missanry	Yes we have well water.
[Tue Apr 22 17:14:32 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	get it checked out asap
[Tue Apr 22 17:14:42 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	but you want to make sure it is the best kind of tribulus, this is usually sourced in Europe and a good herbalist would know the difference in quality
[Tue Apr 22 17:15:26 PDT 2008]	Missanry	Ok thanks. I will look into that.
[Tue Apr 22 17:15:42 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	for endometriosis, there are several herbs used because endo can be a results of excessive estrogen, deficient progesterone or both.
[Tue Apr 22 17:15:46 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	where do you live Miss?
[Tue Apr 22 17:15:50 PDT 2008]	Missanry	Florida
[Tue Apr 22 17:16:00 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	ok
[Tue Apr 22 17:16:07 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Endo seems to be our only problem- husband's sperm count is great, quality is great, my blood work is all great, but then I have endo. I was wondering what would be best to help keep the endo at bay?
[Tue Apr 22 17:16:09 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	agnus may help someone with def progesterone but it isn't likely to be the be all end all if estrogen is excessive as well
[Tue Apr 22 17:17:04 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	back to the male issue
[Tue Apr 22 17:17:21 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	if the morphology is really poor we tend to focus on diet AND gut function,
[Tue Apr 22 17:17:22 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	I take prenatal vit. calcium, b-complex, selenium, Omega 369, Evening Primrose Oil (before ovulation) Milk thistle, Wild Yam (before Ovulation), and Vitex
[Tue Apr 22 17:18:07 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	we usually find that gut function is a big issue with guys who have morphology issues but is he exposed to any toxins, fumes, chemicals at work?
[Tue Apr 22 17:18:30 PDT 2008]	Missanry	The Rep. End. said it's not hormonal and not a blockage. It is probably some sort of microdeletion of the y but it is very expensive to test for so we should just do TESE w/ ICSI. I prefer the natural route if at all possible. ....He is a painting contractor.
[Tue Apr 22 17:19:09 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	If you have endometriosis its great to see that you are on Milk Thistle as this helps to support the liver, Schisandra a chinese herb may also be beneficial in phase two liver detoxification which could help your body get rid of excess estrogens
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[Tue Apr 22 17:19:48 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Is it safe to take the milk thistle after ovulation?
[Tue Apr 22 17:19:52 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	as a painting contractor he would likely be exposed to some significant fumes, chemicals etc, so this can be a tough one
[Tue Apr 22 17:20:11 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	hi irish, welcome. We are chatting with Stacey Roberts on herbs and fertility
[Tue Apr 22 17:21:13 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	often we work on quality through diet, lifestyle changes, gut health like starting on slippery elm and a probiotic, and then make sure he is minimising his exposure as much as possible, if possible, and then utilise a combo of herbs and supplements to help get more antioxidants into his system if his gut function is okay
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[Tue Apr 22 17:22:32 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Milk Thistle which is also call St.Mary's thistle is usually safe to take any time. However I don't know your whole situation so if you were on any meds or anything else if I was your therapist I would need to assess
[Tue Apr 22 17:23:04 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	I am not on any meds, just vitamins and other natural supplements, that I listed above
[Tue Apr 22 17:23:14 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	Hi winette, welcome. please feel free tojump in at any time
[Tue Apr 22 17:23:24 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	the only not entirely normal ones are the milk thistle, wild yam and vitex
[Tue Apr 22 17:23:30 PDT 2008]	winette_montes	hi, thanks...
[Tue Apr 22 17:23:35 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	did someone tell you not to take Milk thistle after ovulation and if so why?
[Tue Apr 22 17:24:02 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	no, no one told me not to, but I couldn't really find out anything about it, so I figured to be on the safe side if I were to get pregnant, I wouldn't take it after ovulation
[Tue Apr 22 17:24:11 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	That is until I found out more information
[Tue Apr 22 17:24:41 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	This is a great example of why its important to consult a herbalist about herbs and have an assessment, it takes the guessing out of it
[Tue Apr 22 17:25:12 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	yeah, I definitely agree
[Tue Apr 22 17:25:18 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Milk thistle is very supportive of the liver and should be fine to take, but it would be important to
[Tue Apr 22 17:25:23 PDT 2008]	Symharmony	What is the benefit of taking Milk Thistle?
[Tue Apr 22 17:26:13 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	find out if there is excess estrogen in the system which contributed to the endo because this could be interfering with your fertility and could cause future problems, cancers, tumors, growths etc
[Tue Apr 22 17:26:41 PDT 2008]	irishfan	what are other important herbs to take besides Milk Thistle?
[Tue Apr 22 17:27:02 PDT 2008]	SMRturtle	Sorry, I had to step away but I'm back now.
[Tue Apr 22 17:27:05 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Well what are other causes for endo growth? I guess I all I have found is that extra estrogen seems to be what fuels it
[Tue Apr 22 17:27:10 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	For endometriosis I would often support the immune system as well with herbs such as astragalus and rosehips because the immune system can be very run down when trying to get rid of the endo over time
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[Tue Apr 22 17:28:13 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	we have an excellent ebook about endo and its probable causes, at naturalfertility.com, it could be cause from sluggish thyroid, def prog, excess estrogen, and other issues
[Tue Apr 22 17:28:52 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	any other questions out there about herbs and fertility
[Tue Apr 22 17:29:03 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Well I had my thyroid tested and all came back normal, so does that kind of rule that out?
[Tue Apr 22 17:29:22 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	if only TSH was tested for your thyroid it doesn't rule it out
[Tue Apr 22 17:29:24 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Are the astragalus & Rosehips safe to take all the time?
[Tue Apr 22 17:29:28 PDT 2008]	SMRturtle	I have PCOS. I have done 3 rounds of clomid, 1 medicated IUI w/ just gonal-f and am on my 2nd medicated IUI with birth control pills for 3 weeks, 10 units of lupron for over 2 weeks, and gonal f for a week now and if all goes as planned my IUI should be by the end of the week. Do you have any herbal suggestions that I should be taking?
[Tue Apr 22 17:29:33 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	ok, thanks
[Tue Apr 22 17:30:16 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	TSH doesn't look at the actual thyroid hormone, there is a great reference for thyroid function, put Mary Shomon thyroid in google and she has tons of information about it, also on our site there are free articles in the fertility tips section that talks about it
[Tue Apr 22 17:30:20 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	SMRturtle- I just had my first IUI today- unmedicated cycle though
[Tue Apr 22 17:30:51 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	good luck bright angel
[Tue Apr 22 17:30:55 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	wow
[Tue Apr 22 17:30:57 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Thanks Corey
[Tue Apr 22 17:31:02 PDT 2008]	Missanry	How do you test for gut function?
[Tue Apr 22 17:31:06 PDT 2008]	SMRturtle	wow- GL brightangel!!!
[Tue Apr 22 17:31:11 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	i'll be thinking about you luv
[Tue Apr 22 17:31:15 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Thanks SMRturtle
[Tue Apr 22 17:31:18 PDT 2008]	SMRturtle
[Tue Apr 22 17:31:18 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	SMR turtle and brightangel I wish you al lthe best with these procedures!!
[Tue Apr 22 17:31:28 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Because you are doing a procedure
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[Tue Apr 22 17:31:39 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	hi river, welcome
[Tue Apr 22 17:31:42 PDT 2008]	Missanry	GL to you both!
[Tue Apr 22 17:31:44 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	we normally do not utilise herbs that address the repro system directly,
[Tue Apr 22 17:31:48 PDT 2008]	rivergonzos	Hi Corey and everyone
[Tue Apr 22 17:31:58 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	hi river
[Tue Apr 22 17:32:01 PDT 2008]	SMRturtle	thank you Stacey! I've been taking 2 injections a night for a week now besides the others so I'm just thrilled to not have to take them anymore soon- my tummy looks like a pin cushion!
[Tue Apr 22 17:32:06 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	we instead utilise herbs that support the organ systems that indirectly support fertility
[Tue Apr 22 17:32:14 PDT 2008]	SMRturtle	that makes sense
[Tue Apr 22 17:32:19 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	these systems would be thyroid, adrenals, liver, etc
[Tue Apr 22 17:32:20 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Thanks Stacey
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[Tue Apr 22 17:32:55 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	there is a free herbs and IVF ebook which would be applicable for doing an IUI as well, if you want it just email me at info@naturalfertility.com
[Tue Apr 22 17:32:55 PDT 2008]	rivergonzos	what herbs would be good for PCOS?
[Tue Apr 22 17:33:12 PDT 2008]	SMRturtle	great, I definitely will. Thanks Stacey!
[Tue Apr 22 17:33:24 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	Stacey, what about soy and menopause? Do you recommend that?
[Tue Apr 22 17:33:38 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	I think river is next
[Tue Apr 22 17:33:39 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Thanks Stacey- I will definitely email about the ebook
[Tue Apr 22 17:33:49 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	so its great that you are taking liver support brightangel, I would also suggest that you consider adrenal support as well to help address stress, some of these herbs are rehmannia and siberian ginseng
[Tue Apr 22 17:34:20 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Herbs for PCO ( if you refer to the beginning of the chat) would depend on the person but because PCO
[Tue Apr 22 17:34:52 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	usually involves insulin resistance we would use herbs like cinnamon to help with glucose metabolism,
[Tue Apr 22 17:34:55 PDT 2008]	rivergonzos	since I just entered I'm unable to view the beginning. sorry about that.
[Tue Apr 22 17:35:09 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Stacey when you say stress do you mean like emotional stress? I am a very stressed out person, and have also believed this could play a role in my infertility
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[Tue Apr 22 17:35:26 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	river, click on action and you can see the beginning of the chat also, the transcript will be up tomorrow a.m.
[Tue Apr 22 17:35:39 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	no problem, I know the transcript will be available, with PCOS we usually support progesterone production using a herb like Agnus castus depending on the situation
[Tue Apr 22 17:35:56 PDT 2008]	rivergonzos	thanks, I'm checkin it out now
[Tue Apr 22 17:35:58 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	river click action, then room history
[Tue Apr 22 17:36:07 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	soy and menopause, I dont recommend soy re fertility purposes
[Tue Apr 22 17:36:29 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	but if you are going to have soy whether re fertility or menopause
[Tue Apr 22 17:36:53 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	I suggest staying away from unfermented soy and sticking to fermented soy products like
[Tue Apr 22 17:37:09 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	miso, natto, tempeh, and most soy sauces if wheat is okay for you
[Tue Apr 22 17:37:22 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	cool, thanks
[Tue Apr 22 17:37:40 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	I have seen too many cycle variations and problems with women drinking soy milk but tofu on occasion seems to be okay
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[Tue Apr 22 17:37:54 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Since we are on the subject of soy, I eat a mostly vegetarian diet meaning I have a piece of chicken like once a month, and the rest of the time I have soy products, I am thinking this is probably not the best for my endo
[Tue Apr 22 17:37:54 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	Hi fit, welcome
[Tue Apr 22 17:38:24 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	when I refer to stress I mean physiological OR emotional, both of which can go hand in hand when dealing with fertility issues
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[Tue Apr 22 17:38:49 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	being stressed out could contribute to your situation because if you are very stressed and the stress hormone cortisol is always being
[Tue Apr 22 17:38:51 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	that is what I thought regarding the stress, so thanks for mentioning some herbs that can help with that
[Tue Apr 22 17:38:53 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	hi sb, welcome to our chat with Stacey Roberts
[Tue Apr 22 17:39:02 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	Hi saaustin
[Tue Apr 22 17:39:20 PDT 2008]	saaustin	hi. just got off work.
[Tue Apr 22 17:39:22 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	pumped out more so than occasional then progesteron can be converted into cortisol instead of being used optimally for reproduction,
[Tue Apr 22 17:39:30 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Hi Amber ::smile
[Tue Apr 22 17:39:35 PDT 2008]	saaustin	hi megan!
[Tue Apr 22 17:39:44 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	if your body is under continual stress, reproduction becomes secondary and goes on the back burner
[Tue Apr 22 17:39:54 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	insiders, these girls....what are you going to DO with them????
[Tue Apr 22 17:40:12 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	I am working on keeping myself less stressed but I just tend to get stressed over little things
[Tue Apr 22 17:40:29 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	aren't we sneaky
[Tue Apr 22 17:40:35 PDT 2008]	saaustin	i'm stressed now and am sure that is what is messing with my cycles.
[Tue Apr 22 17:40:40 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	as you can imagine while specializing in fertility issues we deal a lot with people who are stressed
[Tue Apr 22 17:40:41 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	Bright, have you tried yoga? Yes you are VERY SNEAKY (and cute)
[Tue Apr 22 17:41:04 PDT 2008]	saaustin	is there a way to see the first part of this session?
[Tue Apr 22 17:41:09 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	a stressed person is one who is likely putting more focus on what they don't want to happen versus what they do want to happen.
[Tue Apr 22 17:41:13 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	I have not tried yoga but my husband and I do work out about 4-5 times a week and it really does help me relax a lot
[Tue Apr 22 17:41:25 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	we just started working out again at the end of February
[Tue Apr 22 17:41:32 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Yoga is great as well to reduce stress and dealing with the thought patters that cause stress
[Tue Apr 22 17:41:39 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	good, that you do it together and that you work out is wonderful
[Tue Apr 22 17:41:52 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Ah, I do focus on what I don't want more than what I do want
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[Tue Apr 22 17:42:16 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	Hi ross, welcome!
[Tue Apr 22 17:42:22 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Brenda Strong's DV D on yoga and fertility is excellent, my patient love it, www.yoga4fertility.com
[Tue Apr 22 17:42:28 PDT 2008]	saaustin	megan. can you cut/paste the first part of this and send it to me
[Tue Apr 22 17:43:09 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	you can see it by doing something
[Tue Apr 22 17:43:19 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	How do you go back and see what has been said?
[Tue Apr 22 17:43:44 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Amber click Action up on top and then there is an option there you can click
[Tue Apr 22 17:43:50 PDT 2008]	rivergonzos	Corey, I'm sorry to ask but I looked and I see where SMRturtle asked about her pcos after she logged back in but I don't see a response?
[Tue Apr 22 17:44:01 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Stacey thanks for the yoga DVD info, I will definitely look into it
[Tue Apr 22 17:44:27 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	What can I answer re pcos, I am happy to repeat it
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[Tue Apr 22 17:45:19 PDT 2008]	rivergonzos	sorry, lol.... i have pcos and wanted to know if there are any herbs I should take to help with my infertility with pcos
[Tue Apr 22 17:45:21 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	SM, do you want to repeat your question?
[Tue Apr 22 17:45:35 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Just fyi all of you can find a bunch of free info about fertility in our fertility tips section at www.naturalfertility.com, its free to sign up
[Tue Apr 22 17:45:49 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	re PCOS herbs that address insulin resistance
[Tue Apr 22 17:45:55 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	one would be cinnamon
[Tue Apr 22 17:46:06 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	bright, I think I have an extra dvd of Brenda's in the house, if you email me your address I'll send it to you
[Tue Apr 22 17:46:13 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	another would be gymnena, but this should not be taken with any diabetes meds
[Tue Apr 22 17:46:27 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	awesome
[Tue Apr 22 17:46:32 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	progesterone support through agnus castus or chaste tree is good too
[Tue Apr 22 17:46:34 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	what is your email Corey?
[Tue Apr 22 17:46:35 PDT 2008]	SMRturtle	I was just saying I have PCOS and should i be taking any herbs... though right now I'm in the middle of a medicated IUI protocol
[Tue Apr 22 17:46:46 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	just make sure that the subject line references the chat so that I open it!
[Tue Apr 22 17:47:02 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	ok
[Tue Apr 22 17:47:03 PDT 2008]	rivergonzos	i take metformin
[Tue Apr 22 17:47:03 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	if you are in the middle of a medicated protocol then i wouldn't take herbs like agnus caste, chaste tree
[Tue Apr 22 17:47:24 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Instead I would support thyroid, liver, adrenals, and gut function
[Tue Apr 22 17:47:45 PDT 2008]	rivergonzos	but not for diabetes, just for pcos
[Tue Apr 22 17:48:00 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	Stacey, I do have a question too. Should these ladies be going to the local health food store and buying these herbs over the counter or should they be under the care of a professional? I'm concerned
[Tue Apr 22 17:48:09 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	SMRturtle it would be best NOT to start anything now though, we recommend being on herbs about 3 months before starting a procedure
[Tue Apr 22 17:48:25 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Corey- what is your email?
[Tue Apr 22 17:48:41 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	I am not sure I know how to contact you ::smile
[Tue Apr 22 17:48:45 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	corey@theafa.org
[Tue Apr 22 17:48:49 PDT 2008]	saaustin	this might be a dumb question, but can your body get used to the herbs and lose effectiveness?
[Tue Apr 22 17:49:08 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	thanks
[Tue Apr 22 17:49:22 PDT 2008]	flt	i just find out that im pregnant what king herb can i take for morning sickness
[Tue Apr 22 17:49:28 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	with metformin I would use cinnamon added to foods and tea and Milk thistle, and as long as you aren't doing a medicated cycle you could consider agnus castus but I would really recommend seeing a herbalist to give you more guidance, metformin can deplete the body
[Tue Apr 22 17:49:53 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	of folic acid so make sure you are taking a supp with adequate b vitamins and folic acid 1000mcg
[Tue Apr 22 17:50:41 PDT 2008]	rivergonzos	how do you know you are seeing a good herbalist that knows herbs with infertility?
[Tue Apr 22 17:50:54 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Corey, as talked about early in this chat, all of you should consult a herbalist or naturopath to see what is the best for your specific scenario
[Tue Apr 22 17:50:58 PDT 2008]	SMRturtle	ok, thanks
[Tue Apr 22 17:51:07 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	ok, thanks!
[Tue Apr 22 17:51:20 PDT 2008]	sb10847	What do you think of the role of Vit D deficiency and infertility?
[Tue Apr 22 17:51:43 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Herbs are relatively safe but just like when you think you should have medication you go to a doctor, if you are considering herbs you should see a specialist in this area to give you the best advice
[Tue Apr 22 17:52:07 PDT 2008]	rivergonzos	should they be a certain certification?
[Tue Apr 22 17:52:11 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Vitamin D deficiency has played a role in some of my patients who were experiencing fertility issues.
[Tue Apr 22 17:52:47 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	It really depends on the person history and their current situation, and Vit d deficiency has been cited in some studies to be related
[Tue Apr 22 17:53:05 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	to fertility issues so its always good to rule it out with a simple blood test
[Tue Apr 22 17:54:25 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	certification in the US varies, you may have a doctor that has studied herbalism or someone who did a certificate in 3 months online. Check their background and certification and how long they have been dispensing herbs, ask lots of questions and
[Tue Apr 22 17:55:00 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	the American Herbalist Guild does have members who must meet certain criteria, so you can also check with them for where their members are located
[Tue Apr 22 17:55:36 PDT 2008]	rivergonzos	Thanks Stacey
[Tue Apr 22 17:55:47 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Thanks for all your help Stacey
[Tue Apr 22 17:55:51 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	I am going to visit your site soon
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[Tue Apr 22 17:56:03 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	flt re morning sickness is it better with food
[Tue Apr 22 17:56:15 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	no problem I am glad to help
[Tue Apr 22 17:56:50 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	guys, thanks so much for being here tonight You know that you can stay in the chat room as long as you would like. Please make a note that the next AFA conference is coming up - in New York - Oct 5th. We'd love to see you there.
[Tue Apr 22 17:56:51 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	Amber were you able to read the whole chat?
[Tue Apr 22 17:57:04 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	There will be a post of it tomorrow morning (I guess)
[Tue Apr 22 17:57:06 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	Stacey, thanks so much for a great chat! I learned a lot
[Tue Apr 22 17:57:15 PDT 2008]	saaustin	yes. i'm catching up with it. ::biggrin
[Tue Apr 22 17:57:18 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	and yes, the transcript will go up tomorrow a.m.
[Tue Apr 22 17:57:24 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	good
[Tue Apr 22 17:57:24 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Thank you so much for this opportunity Corey, we will talk soon!!
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[Tue Apr 22 17:57:45 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	looking forward to iti
[Tue Apr 22 17:58:12 PDT 2008]	saaustin	can your body get used to herbs and lose effectiveness?
[Tue Apr 22 17:58:13 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	guys, please let me know where you live as you log off, ok? sweet baby dreams all. I'm in Brooklyn.
[Tue Apr 22 17:58:29 PDT 2008]	flt	you didn't gave answer
[Tue Apr 22 17:58:32 PDT 2008]	brightangel1	I'm in Montana
[Tue Apr 22 17:58:50 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Flt I need more info about the morning sickness, is it better after you eat?
[Tue Apr 22 17:59:03 PDT 2008]	rivergonzos	Florida
[Tue Apr 22 17:59:14 PDT 2008]	saaustin	memphis
[Tue Apr 22 17:59:19 PDT 2008]	rosslake	Any thoughts on getting vit's and minerals through foods versus supplements?
[Tue Apr 22 17:59:21 PDT 2008]	flt	heart burn
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[Tue Apr 22 18:00:33 PDT 2008]	StaceyRoberts	Hi all, I have just been notified my patient is here, if you have any further questions, pls send them to info@naturalfertility.com and I will do my best to answer, take care and it was great to connect with you all, from the gold coast in Australia
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[Tue Apr 22 18:00:50 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	good night all
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[Tue Apr 22 18:01:05 PDT 2008]	rosslake	Northern californis
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[Tue Apr 22 18:01:24 PDT 2008]	Corey_Whelan	If anyone has any additional questions that were not answered please let meknow and we will see if we can find out the info for you. best of luck all
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